System Prompts & LLM

Hi everyone,

I’m currently building an AI chatbot that converts natural language user queries into accurate SQL queries, executes them on a database, and returns the results in a simple, readable format.

At the moment, I’m using Qwen 30B locally and Groq’s LLaMA 70B for online inference.

I’d like to know:

  • Which LLM models work best for text-to-SQL and analytics use cases like this?

  • Which platforms or communities provide reliable system prompts, best practices, or examples that can be integrated into a Python-based implementation?

Any suggestions, resources, or real-world experiences would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

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Which LLM models work best for text-to-SQL and analytics use cases like this?

There are quite a few models fine-tuned for text-to-SQL.


Context: why “analytics text-to-SQL” is harder than it sounds

A production system isn’t just NL → SQL. The most common failure points are:

  • Schema linking: mapping “customers”, “ARR”, “active users” to the right tables/columns in a large schema.
  • Value grounding: using valid filter values (e.g., region='APAC' vs AsiaPacific).
  • Dialect correctness: Snowflake vs BigQuery vs Postgres function and date semantics.
  • Workflow realism: real analytics requests often need multi-step SQL, validation, retries, and follow-up clarification—exactly what newer benchmarks like Spider 2.0 emphasize. (spider2-sql.github.io)

Because of this, the best systems usually combine:

  1. a SQL-specialist model for query generation/repair, and
  2. a general model for clarification, orchestration, and explanation.

1) Models that work best for your use case

A. SQL-specialist models (recommended for the SQL step)

These are trained/tuned to output executable SQL reliably.

Snowflake Arctic-Text2SQL-R1 family (7B/14B/32B)

  • Designed specifically for text-to-SQL with execution-based reward training (GRPO). (Hugging Face)
  • Snowflake reports top-tier BIRD results for the family (with the 32B highlighted). (Snowflake)
    Why it fits: strong “SQL actually runs and returns correct results” focus; good default if you can run 7B locally for generation + an execution-guided repair loop.

Defog SQLCoder (e.g., defog/sqlcoder-7b-2)

  • Explicitly positioned for analytics querying (and explicitly warns to use read-only DB access). (Hugging Face)
  • Prompt templates are commonly referenced via Defog’s evaluation repo (sql-eval). (GitHub)
    Why it fits: widely adopted baseline; lots of community Q&A and prompt guidance.

Distil Labs Distil-Qwen3-4B-Text2SQL (Jan 2026)

  • Recent release; a 4B text2sql model distilled from DeepSeek-V3 per the model card, plus GGUF packaging for local inference. (Hugging Face)
    Why it fits: fast local “first pass” generator; useful if latency matters, with fallback to a stronger model when validation fails.

SambaNova / Numbers Station SambaCoder-nsql-llama-2-70b

  • HF model card describes training specifically for text-to-SQL pairs; SambaNova’s write-up claims strong Spider execution accuracy (their reported numbers). (Hugging Face)
    Why it fits: a larger SQL-specialist option if you want a single heavy model (less attractive if cost/latency is critical).

B. General-purpose LLMs (recommended for orchestration + narration)

Your current Groq LLaMA 70B usage is well aligned for:

  • asking clarifying questions,
  • deciding whether to query vs explain,
  • summarizing results and handling follow-ups.

Benchmarks like LiveSQLBench explicitly focus on realistic success rates and system behavior over time (and they position themselves as contamination-resistant / evolving). (livesqlbench.ai)
Use this category primarily as the “product brain,” not the SQL generator.


2) What I would do in your setup (Qwen 30B local + Groq LLaMA 70B)

Recommended division of labor

(1) Groq LLaMA 70B: router + clarifier + narrator

  • Decide: “ask a clarification” vs “run a query now”
  • Convert result tables into a short, readable answer (no hallucinated rows)

(2) Local SQL-specialist: generator + repair loop

  • Generate SQL-only with a strict contract
  • If execution fails, repair using the DB error message

A practical local pairing:

Non-negotiable safety + correctness layer (do this regardless of model)

  1. Parse and validate SQL before execution (block DDL/DML by default, enforce allowlists)

    • SQLGlot is commonly used for parsing/transpiling across many dialects. (GitHub)
  2. Read-only DB credentials (SQLCoder explicitly warns about this risk). (Hugging Face)

  3. Timeouts + row limits (protect warehouses; prevent “runaway” scans)

  4. Hard rule: if the query returns 0 rows, answer “no results” (don’t let the narrator invent data)

OWASP’s LLM Top 10 is a good baseline for prompt injection and insecure output handling risks in “LLM → tool execution” apps. (owasp.org)


3) Benchmarks/leaderboards to use (and how to interpret them)

Use multiple benchmarks because each measures different failure modes:

  • BIRD: emphasizes correct and efficient SQL; includes value/external-knowledge aspects closer to analytics. (bird-bench.github.io)
  • Spider 2.0: focuses on real enterprise workflows (large schemas, multi-step tasks, multiple systems). (spider2-sql.github.io)
  • LiveSQLBench / BIRD-Interact ecosystem: targets evolving, realistic tasks and interactive settings. (livesqlbench.ai)

Important caveat: leaderboard numbers can be distorted by benchmark annotation errors; a CIDR 2026 analysis reports very high error rates on BIRD mini-dev and Spider2.0-Snow and re-evaluates top agents. (vldb.org)
Practical implication: treat leaderboards as shortlisting tools, then decide using a private regression suite on your schema/KPIs.


4) Platforms/communities with reliable prompts, best practices, and Python-ready examples

A. Prompt templates you can reuse directly

  • Defog sql-eval prompt templates (commonly referenced as “the recommended SQLCoder prompt”). (GitHub)
  • Anthropic prompt library (“SQL sorcerer”): a concrete text-to-SQL prompt pattern you can adapt even if you don’t use Claude. (Claude)

B. Python frameworks with proven SQL-agent patterns

  • LangChain SQL Agent docs: outlines a practical sequence (table discovery → pick relevant tables → fetch schemas → generate → double-check → execute). (LangChain Docs)
  • LlamaIndex SQL query engines: examples combining structured SQL with unstructured retrieval (“auto vector” style). (LlamaIndex)
  • Hugging Face smolagents text-to-SQL example: emphasizes why naive “single-shot SQL” is brittle and shows an agent-style approach. (Hugging Face)

C. Provider/community cookbooks (especially relevant to your Groq usage)

  • Groq community guide: JSON mode + function calling for SQL (predictable structured outputs; DuckDB example but transferable). (Groq Community)
  • Groq API cookbook: includes “Text to SQL with JSON Mode” and “Verified SQL Function Calling” examples. (GitHub)

D. End-to-end open-source projects (useful for architecture patterns)

  • Dataherald: NL→SQL engine aimed at enterprise QA over relational data. (GitHub)
  • Vanna: “agentic retrieval” approach for text-to-SQL, popular Python project. (GitHub)
  • DB-GPT: broader “AI native data app” framework; includes Text2SQL components and fine-tuning docs. (GitHub)

E. Where implementation pitfalls show up first (high-signal)

  • Hugging Face model discussions (prompt templates, chat formatting issues, dialect confusion). (Hugging Face)
  • Benchmark repos (Spider2 tooling, “tool-call Spider-Agent”, reproducibility notes). (GitHub)

5) A concrete “minimum robust” Python design (fits your stack)

  1. Intent router (Groq 70B)
    Output JSON: {action: ask|query, clarifying_question?, constraints?}

  2. Schema/value retrieval (code)

    • relevant tables/columns only
    • join hints
    • sample distinct values for likely filters
  3. SQL generation (local SQL specialist)
    Output SQL only (no markdown)

  4. SQL validation (SQLGlot + allowlists) (GitHub)

  5. Execute with read-only credentials + limits

  6. Repair loop (local SQL specialist)
    Provide DB error + minimal schema slice; retry 1–3 times

  7. Narration (Groq 70B or local Qwen 30B)
    Summarize only the returned rows; include rowcount; handle empty results deterministically.


6) “Best model” shortlist to try first (for your exact scenario)

  • Primary local SQL model: Snowflake Arctic-Text2SQL-R1-7B (Hugging Face)
  • Fast local first-pass: distil-labs Distil-Qwen3-4B-Text2SQL (Jan 2026) (Hugging Face)
  • Strong baseline / lots of prompt guidance: defog/sqlcoder-7b-2 (Hugging Face)
  • Keep Groq LLaMA 70B for: orchestration + clarifications + result narration (and use JSON mode / tool calling patterns). (Groq Community)